Williamses make good company

Disaster sets the parameters that measure men and Eddie and Martha Williams measure up as giants.

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Posted by jameson ( Apr 30 2008, 02:00:36 PM EDT ) Permalink

Calendars collide in conflicting dates

If you're a fan of Woman's Missionary Union's Missions Extravaganza; Baptist Men's missions conference and annual meeting; and the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship of North Carolina's spring meeting you will have to decide which one you want to attend in March 2009, because you'll only be able to attend one.

They are all scheduled for March 20-21.

WMU will be again at Ridgecrest; Baptist Men at Hickory Grove Baptist Church in Charlotte; and CBF at Snyder Memorial in Fayetteville. Because they have "overlapping constituencies" it just "wouldn't be smart" to intentionally schedule all three events on the same weekend, according to CBF executive Larry Hovis.

I'm not going to speculate on the opposite of smart but it has happened.

While WMU can legitimately feel their meeting, has been dissed, the leaders of Baptist Men and CBF assure me it was not intentional. There is no conspiracy, collusion or intention to stomp on WMU's annual meeting, even though their date has been set for five years. The other guys just didn't think to check the calendars or with each other when determining their own date.

Once they noticed the conflict a couple weeks ago, they were trapped by limited dates and venues, availability of speakers and contracts already signed. Richard Brunson, executive director, said Baptist Men moved its meeting to March after they twice were snowed out in January. Combine that with 2009 being the year to meet in Charlotte; Hickory Grove the only church in the area with capacity to accommodate the meeting, ACC and CIAA basketball events in Charlotte, Easter and Palm Sunday and the church's schedule, there was really only one weekend to pick and that was March 20-21, Brunson said.

While there is no way to have hard evidence, Brunson feels there is only a small number of WMU Missions Extravaganza participants who would go to the Baptist Men's meeting if it was on a separate weekend. "People who would go to their meeting are not the same people who come to ours," he said.

While distressed WMU staff might feel the Baptist Men's board purposely set their date to conflict with WMU's, Brunson said that is just not so. Brunson said he sets the dates himself, and not the board.

"There was no intent to set a conflicting date," Brunson said. "It's just one of those things that happens."

Hovis said his group was the only one of the three that had a legitimate shot at changing its schedule, and he tried to do it when he learned of the conflicts. But contracts with Fred Craddock, their primary speaker, could not be changed because of his availability and they could not find a suitable different date. CBF has been pretty consistent in its spring date, meeting the third weekend of March for nine of the past 11 years.

"It's terrible," he said. "It hurts everybody." Hovis said he, Brunson and Ruby Fulbright, WMU executive director have talked and all agreed "we'd have to somehow make the best of it."

"We're all sorry, we all love each other and we'll try to communicate better in the future," Hovis said.

Calendaring major events like these is tough enough, without having to go back and make amends to those whose dates you blundered into.

Posted by jameson ( Apr 23 2008, 11:01:58 PM EDT ) Permalink Comments [1]

Workers Work

They've often said it and now the proof is in. Some of the best Baptist men - are women.

Participants at the Participants at the North Carolina Missions Conference and Baptist Men's annual meeting Feb. 29-March 1 were asked to fill out registration cards, and 1,651 did. Now, 2,263 people had pre-registered and paid their $10. But you know how people are about filling out the cards in the packets. Most men don't know where their packet is five minutes after they go through registration line, to say nothing of the yellow card inside.

But 1,651 people filled out a card to do their duty and hoping to win a prize. Of that number 854 were women. Yes, that is 52 percent - more than half. Of course women might be a little more likely to fill out the cards, but the fact that more that half the respondents are female is very significant at a meeting that until very recently has been known as the Baptist Men's annual conference.

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Fixing Things

Deep in the park I came upon a young woman walking her bike with a flat back tire.

I always carry a spare and a pump, so I pulled over, assured her I was harmless, and set about helping her change the tire. It was a long walk back to where she had parked her car.

She was prepared with a spare of her own, but she couldn?t get it inflated. Working to stay ahead of approaching darkness, we changed the tube, slipped the tire back over the rim and got enough air into it so she could ride back to her car, several miles away.

Men like to fix things. Women who ask us for help expect us not to just talk about it, but to pick up a tool and fix it.

That's one reason this Woman's Missionary Union. thing is so frustrating. We can't fix it.

Steven Fitzgerald at First Baptist, New Bern, is trying to fix it, as are the other eight pastors who held rallies at their churches Dec. 4 to raise awareness and to hear a WMU representative tell their story yet again. Roy Smith - who informed me he had nothing to do with organizing the rallies, but only wrote a letter, sent by WMU to their chapter leaders, encouraging them to attend - is trying to fix it.

Milton Hollifield, Baptist State Convention executive director-treasurer has been trying for 20 months to fix it. Ruby Fulbright and her executive board have been trying to fix it.

But the tire is still flat. No one can get it to hold air. I didn't ask the young woman in the park how her tire got flat. I didn?t accuse her of carelessly riding over a sharp stone, or not taking care of her rims, or keeping it under inflated. It was just flat. I could stop what I was doing and help her fix it. That's what men do.

I attended the rally in Greenville Dec. 4. Everything said by the WMU representatives was true as I know it. But several things also true remained unsaid, and thus, left an incomplete picture; a partially inflated tire.

It is true that Hollifield denied a WMU request to fill a multicultural specialist position that WMU once had. Left unsaid was the fact since 2003 after a budget crunch and staff cutback in which 15 people lost their jobs, all positions at the Baptist State Convention staff, once vacated for any reason, have to undergo a thorough evaluation to justify rehiring; that other BSC groups also were awaiting word to fill staff positions; that Hollifield had told Fulbright in January of this year that he would fund such a position out of reserves for three years; and that in the 11 months since, no such candidate ever was presented to Hollifield to consider.

It is true that the WMU is vacating their offices at the Baptist State Convention staff building. Left unsaid was that the BSC is giving them any of their computers and office equipment they want; that they were not "kicked out" of the building; and that their leaving is a direct result of their own board's vote.

It is true that as an autonomous body, WMU must be free to minister with other Great Commission Christians as it feels led. Left unsaid was that WMU has never been denied, warned, discouraged or cautioned against any relationship they've established.

It is true that Hollifield insists on final approval for WMU staff hires. Left unsaid was that WMU staff is considered BSC staff for purposes of pay and benefits; including insurance and liability; and that Hollifield acknowledges his responsibility for the same final approval for every other position on staff.

It is true that WMU is an autonomous entity. Left unsaid was that one entity whose employees are paid by another entity, has relinquished a certain portion of that autonomy. In this case, the relinquished portion is the ability to present a new employee to the ultimate employer without his previous approval.

Because the WMU NC board feels that final approval should be their prerogative alone, they have decided to walk their bike back to the parking lot, leaving those who want to help standing alone with tools in hand.

Posted by jameson ( Dec 09 2007, 11:08:02 PM EST ) Permalink Comments [5]

Open Arms

Nine churches on Dec. 4 will host rallies for Woman's Missionary Union. Roy Smith, former executive director-treasurer of the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina, wrote a letter encouraging attendance at the rallies for two reasons.

First, come Jan. 1 WMU has no income and it needs immediate help to pay its bills. Smith is not asking rally participants to bring their checkbooks, but he would be thrilled if they did.

Maybe more importantly, when WMU works out a mutually acceptable date with the Baptist State Convention it will sponsor a statewide offering among churches to raise financial support for 2008. Smith hopes these rallies stir up interest in and support for that offering.

The program will be simple: a hymn, welcome from the moderator, a short skit of three historical scenes featuring women committed to missions, more singing and a challenge to participants.

Rallies are to be held in Greenville, Asheville, Fayetteville, Wilmington, Greensboro, New Bern, Winston-Salem, Charlotte and Raleigh, all at churches that relate to both the Baptist State Convention and the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship.

Al Cadenhead, pastor of Providence Baptist Church in Charlotte, is hosting a rally because "there's a long and deep appreciation for WMU" in his church, and "I want to know what we can do to help and keep WMU working toward the future."

Cadenhead said it is "not accidental" that churches hosting the rallies are supportive of CBF because "one of the questions WMU has to answer is how it will relate to CBF."

While some conspiracy theorists think CBF initiated this whole WMU stumble, it is more plausible that CBF is simply offering a steadying hand to say, "How can we help?" While churches that relate more strongly to the Baptist State Convention are trying to figure out where missions education is going and what new thing they need to do "now that WMU has left," CBF churches are simply saying instead they are willing to support WMU where ever it is heading.

That is a huge difference.

At danger of having you take this analogy farther than intended, has the Baptist State Convention driven WMU into the arms of another? Or was the other enticing her all along?

In a climate where perceptions matter, what is the message when only CBF oriented churches are holding rallies? Or that only CBF churches were asked to hold rallies?

Smith's letter, on personal letterhead distributed by WMU to WMU chapter leaders, says "A crisis has been thrust upon Woman's Missionary Union of North Carolina by the leadership of the Baptist State Convention."

While I appreciate Smith and his enormous contribution to North Carolina Baptist life, that statement is simply not true. The crisis in which WMU finds itself - if indeed it would describe it as such - is a crisis of its own making that could have been avoided at any of 100 steps since April 2006.

But all that aside, WMU has achieved the clear, explicit, unambiguous autonomy it sought. It also inherited with that status the rights and privileges due any non-profit organization - including the Biblical Recorder and your local church - namely the right to offer its services in the marketplace, define itself clearly and position itself as an organization that deserves your support.

Two things I learned as a development consultant are applicable here. 1. There is a lot of money out there. 2. No one gives you a dollar because you need it. People only give to support an organization that is performing a function the donor deems vital.

For WMU to thrive at some point very soon those who love it, like Smith, need to begin using terminology to position WMU as a magnetic organization: master of an attracting future, not martyr of a rejecting past. They must offer constant and compelling evidence of the vital functions WMU performs, of the needs it meets, of the service it renders.

In its first year of independence, WMU can raise money as martyr. After that, it must be master.

Posted by jameson ( Nov 29 2007, 11:14:44 AM EST ) Permalink Comments [11]

Spirit Rains

No one could remember anything like it.

When Mark Harris, pastor of First Baptist Church Charlotte finished preaching the convention sermon Tuesday night, he issued an altar call...and hundreds of men and women poured from their seats to kneel at the front and pray for a new day in North Carolina Baptist life.

Harris urged messengers to "give up negativism, back biting and sniping at each other" and they responded in droves. Kenneth Dye, retired director of missions, said later, "It was the most spiritual night I've ever seen at a convention."

"God, let it be that North Carolina Baptists will never be the same," prayed Harris, perspiring and hoarse. "Let it be said tonight that no man can explain what happened to North Carolina Baptists. It had to be the hand of God."

People attending North Carolina Baptists' annual meeting can expect a preaching parade and this year is no different. Jim Henry opened Monday night, preaching on unity. Milton A. Hollifield Jr. pled passionately that messengers "stop wrangling" with each other, and "make the goals of the Lord Jesus Christ our goals and stop playing church."

Convention President Stan Welch declared that God has no limits and "wants to do a whole lot more than we're allowing Him to do."

Then Harris, relating his message to Nehemiah rebuilding the wall around Jerusalem, told the story of martyr Nate Saint. He told of Saint's biographer finding the spot where Saint died in South America, but his guide said Saint really died on the alter of a church during revival in his college town. From that point on, Saint's life was not his own.

"Nothing worthwhile is going to happen in the Baptist State Convention until North Carolina Baptists die to themselves," he said. Then he called people to the altar to make that commitment.

And they came.

It may be too early to declare a transition to civility and Christian grace has been made. But if down the road we look around and realize dialog is calmer, more reasoned and more full of grace, and that selfless North Carolina Baptists are focused on mission, we may well look to Tuesday night at the 2007 annual meeting as the point where in God it began.

Posted by jameson ( Nov 13 2007, 10:24:51 PM EST ) Permalink Comments [3]

Big Money

When I learned 40 years ago that Dad made $1,000 a month, I quickly translated that to an amazing $50 a working day and thought, "How in the world could any man need $50 a day?"

Of course, I was still a couple years away from pulling in a whopping buck an hour for slinging bales and cleaning gutters for local farmers.

In a college sociology class my professor, who earned about $15,000 at the time, asked if any of us students ever anticipated a personal income of at least $25,000. I knew inflation alone would push and pull salaries higher, but I was the only one who raised my hand.

When I went to work at Baptist Press in 1977 my $15,500 salary was significantly higher than what my wife and I were earning together at a bank and newspaper in Colorado Springs.

At Baptist Press we revealed the first Southern Baptist denominational executive salary to exceed $100,000. News that Paul Stevens of the Radio and Television Commission (now extinct) earned such a magnificent sum was so significant that for a couple years the salary was listed in any news story announcing a new chief executive.

Until we learned that many large church pastors were being paid similarly.

Keith Parks kept salaries low for everyone at the International Mission Board as an unintended consequence of his own reluctance to accept increases the trustees urged on him.

We are no longer amazed at the stratospheric income of entertainers and athletes. Baseball player Alex Rodriguez opted out of his $252 million, 10-year contract because he thinks he can get more. I've always chuckled at that number – 252. I guess he wouldn't have signed for $250 million, but boy, that extra $200,000 a year completed the final essential element to put groceries on his table.

Part of the difficulty that new pastors of a couple mega-churches in transition this year have endured is complaints over their salary from people who miss the previous pastor. One salary in Tennessee is rumored by people who don't like the new pastor to be $450,000.

People are sensitive about their salaries. We are most sensitive about people making significantly more money than we do if we perceive them to be doing basically the same work. And for one working within Christian organizations, it can be unseemly to be paid way above average because so much of your income is provided through sacrificial gifts from average people.

Now comes word that Bill Stillerman was paid $371,000 in 2005 for his work as president of the Baptist Retirement Homes . Non-profit organizations file for the IRS a form 990 on which they must list the salary of their chief executive. These are public documents.

I'll let you judge whether you think that is too much money for the leader of an organization with a $24 million budget to make. But before you do, read the rest of the story.

To inform my opinion about the apparent anomaly of a Baptist leader making that high of salary, I called Mr. Stillerman, unlike anyone else who has been raising the salary issue to castigate Baptist Retirement Homes leadership for pleading poverty and paying princely.

Stillerman told me that in the 1980s when many institutions were struggling, lenders asked chief executives to carry a "key man" or "split interest" life insurance policy with the institution as the beneficiary. The "split interest" part comes in because the individual who was covered accumulated part of the growing value of the policy. In Baptist Retirement Homes case, trustees saw this as a way to help fund Stillerman's retirement benefits down the road.

In 2005 IRS rules changed on tax accounting for these policies. Basically, Stillerman "gave up rights" to his portion of the policy and claimed the accumulated value as income in 2005. That $113,000 raise getting so much attention was in fact a portion of Stillerman's retirement funds - accumulated during his more than 20 years as president - on which he now has the privilege of paying income tax.

Because 2006 forms 990 are not yet available, you are reading here first that it will include a second $113,000, as the second half of a two-year tax management process. Stillerman's salary will actually be just a cost of living raise above the $258,000 recorded in 2004.

Yes, that is still a lot of money. But Baptist Retirement Homes, just as the Baptist State Convention did a couple years ago, employs a national benefits firm to study compensation and make recommendations. BRH trustee chair Phillip Feagin says Stillerman's salary is "fair and reasonable" and is in the median range for similar organizations of similar size. Beyond that, Feagin says Stillerman's value to BRH is "inestimable...immeasurable."

BRH uses Cooperative Program funds strictly to pay the bills for residents who have outlived their money. This is not an issue for the BRH trustees, all of whom were elected by messengers to the Baptist State Convention at the time of this transaction and to whom it should matter most.

Posted by jameson ( Nov 11 2007, 05:21:29 PM EST ) Permalink Comments [1]

Bike and Frog

Riding with my head down I saw the frog almost too late. It was near the middle of the trail, but plenty far enough to one side that I could easily avoid it.

With barely a twitch of the handlebars I swooped behind the frog and on down the trail. But as I went by, my eye caught the strangest sight. Seriously. The frog was hunched with its left shoulder down, scrunched like a dog who just learned the hard way that rug was valuable. Its eyes bugged out big as saucers watching me.

I realized then that I was everything to that frog.

He watched me zip toward him big as an Empire State Building on wheels. To him, the quality and length of his time on earth depended entirely on whether I troubled to avoid him or whether I simply maintained my course and squashed him like ...a frog.

To me, the frog was nothing, simply a potential mess to avoid. To the frog I was everything.

There is in North Carolina Baptist life a frog and bike scenario that keeps me scratching my head. Isn't the Baptist State Convention the bike and the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship the frog? The BSC is big, rich and influential. The CBF is new, small and...not.

Yet, instead of acknowledging the frog and twitching the handlebars to let the frog continue on its merry way, many BSC loyalists seem more like the frog, afraid they're getting run over.

The CBF is holding its typical Tuesday afternoon confab and cookies event during the BSC annual session next week. This year it will go through the afternoon and into the night, running right over the evening session of the BSC - including the Biblical Recorder report!

People who don't like CBF think that is rude. People who do like CBF say they weren't going to the BSC evening session anyway.

Now those who don't like CBF are claiming the CBF meeting is a pep rally to get out the vote to control Wednesday morning events at the BSC. Frankly, if attendance Wednesday morning is anything like last year's 300 present when the business started, it won't take many warm bodies from any side to control things.

CBF oriented churches have shown by their scheduling this year that they are just not interested anymore in what the Baptist State Convention does or doesn't do. It would do those churches and individuals so preoccupied with a disinterested CBF simply to twitch their handlebars, keep riding and let the frog hop away into the tall grass.

Posted by jameson ( Nov 09 2007, 04:39:06 PM EST ) Permalink Comments [1]

Working Nudget

As it turns out the 2008 North Carolina Missions Offering goal and allocations approved by the Executive Committee and Board of Directors to be considered by messengers Nov. 14 did not come as a recommendation from the budget committee.

Budget Committee chair Larry Burns called me to clarify because at least one committee member thought she had missed a meeting when the Biblical Recorder story published Nov. 3 said "Executive Committee members approved a recommendation from the budget committee." In one sense the difference is finer than a frog hair sliced three ways, since whatever recommendation came forth, from whoever offered it, the Executive Committee and then the Board of Directors had to approve anything that's going to be presented to messengers, which they did.

In another sense, the fact that the budget committee actually did not meet during the month delay from September to a special called meeting Oct. 29 begs the question "What was the delay all about?" The reason given for the NCMO budget not being presented to the board with the rest of the budget recommendations in September was that NCMO receipts were so far behind budget, another month was needed to monitor those receipts before an informed 2008 recommendation could be offered.

The Oct. 29 meeting - called primarily to deal with final budget matters, especially the NCMO - was a joint meeting of the Executive Committee and the budget committee. Burns said Nov. 6 that the budget committee wanted a joint meeting to "get a greater consensus" for the final recommendation to the Board of Directors, which met immediately following the joint meeting.

. The budget committee is made up of eight people, plus the five officers, who serve as ex officio members. The budget committee members are Burns as chair, Bill Grisham, Sarah Knott, Sandra James, who is president of Woman's Missionary Union, Lisa Horton, Greg Mathis, Steve Hardy and Don Warren. Only Grisham, Mathis, Knott and Warren are not also on the Executive Committee. Knott is a Board of Directors member. Grisham, Mathis and Knott made the called meeting, in addition to the Executive Committee members. The five officers are President Stan Welch, First Vice President Rick Speas, Second Vice President Leland Kerr, Board President Allan Blume and Vice President Terry Larsen.

So, the majority of the budget committee members are also on the Executive Committee and all but one of those who are not did attend the joint meeting.

After Executive Committee member Cindy Stevens proposed that Woman's Missionary Union be authorized to receive a special offering for its own support, the door was open for the NCMO allocations to be proposed.

Executive Committee chair and Board President Allan Blume called on Burns whose first response was to ask Sandra James if she had any comments. Evidently Burns was expecting James to present some figures showing where WMU anticipates income, figures which he had not received as budget committee chair. James apparently did not know exactly what Burns was looking for.

Because no more than three people around the table understand how WMU could make the move they are making without more "guaranteed" income than they evidently have lined up, there was still a sense that WMU is holding back income information. But James turned to WMU Director Ruby Fulbright for help and Fulbright listed WMU income as Cooperative Program, NCMO and registration fees for programs they present.

When asked about income from the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship of North Carolina, which has WMU in its budget and is receiving a special offering for WMU, Fulbright said they received just $7,000 last year from CBF and had as yet received no money from the special offering.

After that dialog, Burns laid out his proposal for the NCMO allocations. He made his motion, then asked for a second. Had his motion come from the budget committee, no second would have been necessary.

In conversation later, Burns said that his proposal was just that, a proposal, put onto the table as a starting point for discussion. Since no one questioned his figures or logic, his initial offering became the recommendation the Board of Directors approved and that will be presented Nov. 14 for adoption by messengers to the annual session.

It is difficult to separate Burns' role as budget committee chair from his role simply as a member of the Executive Committee. I suspect that when he offered his proposal, even though he asked for a second to his motion, I was not alone in assuming it was the recommendation of the budget committee.

It makes no difference ultimately. The Board approved what the Board approved.

One possible difference in process could be that discussion is easier and franker in a smaller setting and both opinions and budgets can be calculated and nudged without the weight of the larger deliberative body. In a committee established specifically for that purpose, budget committee members could have hashed and thrashed freely over allocations and goal setting. James' minority position would not have been quite so lonely as it is in the larger body of the Executive Committee.

None of the other budget committee members offered a contrary opinion to Burns' proposal. So that in effect became their proposal too.

Posted by jameson ( Nov 07 2007, 08:17:21 AM EST ) Permalink

Now What?

A friend of mine used to write a column with his wife entitled, "He Said, She Said." The story posted Tuesday about Woman's Missionary Union taking a drastic step out from the protective financial umbrella of the Baptist State Convention almost reads like a "he said, she said."

Milton Hollifield and Ruby Fulbright, by their own statements, hold each other in high regard. They both appreciate the work of the other. They just have a different perspective on the same issue.

Unfortunately, that issue has become the rock on which they were willing to die and may be misinterpreted as a WMU referendum on the Baptist State Convention.

"If the WMU can't get along with the new Convention leadership, who can?" is the question Convention leadership fears. If you're getting ready to ask that question, you should pause because that's not what this sad issue is about.

This isn't about the work or leadership of either the Convention or of WMU. And it is not about control of WMU by the Convention.

It boils down to perspectives of responsibility and too many lawyers. Hollifield would gladly have surrendered final authority on hiring WMU staff, except that he feels the Baptist State Convention organizational documents require that of him. As executive director of WMU, a body recognized as "autonomous" in a 1997 document approved by the Baptist State Convention executive committee, Fulbright and her board feel final responsibility for WMU staff is hers alone.

The lawyers side with their employers.

Organizational theory should tell us the chief executive officer is ultimately responsible for laying the sword of approval on the shoulder of all employees. Yes, executives of large corporations rely on and trust their managers for employees in their areas. Who has time to vet every employee?

But if the exec so chooses, it is his right. Even responsibility?

Historically, Baptist State Convention execs affirmed the staff selections of WMU, while still holding veto authority. None ever used it. Neither has Hollifield.

But on the threat of the possibility, WMU is drawing a deep breath, saying "thank you very much" and stepping into a new reality which will be unclear until supporters make themselves known.

Maybe a simple assurance from Hollifield that he would approve Fulbright's staff selections could have avoided this drastic action. Maybe a simple assurance from Fulbright that she recognized Hollifield's responsibility as exec in hiring matters could have done the same.

When it comes to claiming final responsibility, he said, "I do." And she said, "I do." Those words cap a wedding ceremony with a rush of positive emotion. In this case, they sound like the final vows of a dissolution instead.

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